that's fine. >> joy-ann, last word. >> john mccain is driven by his resentments and his piques. the idea when he was beaten by george w. bush suddenly he became the thorn in bush's side. he has seemed to be driven by his personal animus towards barack obama president obama in his policy pronouncements. i have no belief that john mccain went into that meeting and wanted to come out with a fair assessment. that's his political calculation. the other thing for the republican party is look who they put out there to talk about their opposition to rice. they had to throw kelly ayotte out there with no foreign policy experience because even they understand going after this woman, going after this -- another african-american official in the obama white house, i know it's unpopular to say, but they seem to have a pattern that isn't helpful politically so i don't see what the margin is. >> senator ayotte has political m a bigg ambition. >> and she's a woman. >> our power panel, my thanks to all three of you. >>> we are waiting for remarks from president obama who is expected to speak from